Je viens de lire ça et c'est vraiment énorme :
I have a theory on the ending of metal gear solid 5. At the end of the game it’s revealed that Venom Snake is not truly Big Boss. This is false. Venom Snake is Big Boss and here’s why.
First of all. The man in bandages. He is a hallucination. There is a cassette tape labeled “the effects of Snake’s coma”. In it is mentioned that Snake is still feeling the effects of his 9 year coma just after waking up. So, figuring out what is real in the hospital is tricky. Anything can be hallucinated. So, a good way to tell if something is hallucinated or not is determining if something seen in the hospital appears later in the game. This kind of evidence can be found from anywhere except cassette tapes. Spoiler alert, but Big Boss is capable of hallucinating cassette tapes. BB is also capable of hallucinating entire rooms. That fact, coupled with the fact that he can hallucinate entire conversations, means that the scene at the very end were Ishmael rides off into the sunset and the scene were miller regards Venom Snake as he and the “real” Big Boss are falling into comas can also be a hallucination. This is all supported because at a certain point in the game it is revealed that Paz is still alive. However it turns out that BB hallucinated all the conversations he ends up having with her, AND all the cassette tapes she shares with him and the hospital room they have these conversations in. Things like quite, the man on fire, and the third boy all appear later in the game. So we know that they actually exist because later in the game the effects of Snake’s coma have lessened in some degree. Ishmael is the only thing that doesn’t appear later. But he does appear in mission 46 labeled the “truth”. This is the mission were the twist is revealed. Let me assure you, this mission is anything from the truth.
Kojima has been quoted as saying that a lot of things in metal gear are inspired by the book 1984. One of the biggest references in the phantom pain is the year it takes place, 1984. There are cassette tapes that BB receives after the player plays this mission. Many things are “explained” in this mission, but it is totally possible that these were all hallucinated. However these hallucinated cassette tapes are a good way to see what is going on in BB’s head, because BB is subconsciously creating the cassette tapes. One of these cassette tapes is called “doublethink”. In the book 1984 doublethink is a way that the government suppress the truth, enslaving the poor people in London. This cassette tape is where most of the things about Venom are explained. But the nature of doublethink is not knowing what the truth is. Ocelot even says “in this year 2 + 2 = 5”. This cassette tape gets less and less reputable the more you think about it. Even the fact that mission 46 is called the truth makes it more likely to be the lie, because that’s the nature of doublethink. To say one think is the truth when it is a lie. In 1984 the main character’s job is to change old documents so that they seem to predict future events. He fabricates lies from old speeches and reports. This is the case with mission 1 and mission 46. Mission 46 is the change that happens to mission one, reminiscent of the falsified documents in 1984.
Not only that, but look at the character of Ishmael. The name is a reference to Moby Dick. In the book, Ishmael is two characters. The protagonist and the narrator. Ishmael can’t be the protagonist because Venom is the protagonist. So naturally he is the narrator. They are the same person, but they can’t exist in the same place, because Ishmael the narrator is older than Ishmael the character because Ishmael the narrator is telling the story about himself. This works with BB and Ishmael. This is supported by another piece of evidence. Ishmael in the game breaks the fourth wall. The nature of a narrator is to break the fourth wall. Narrators always address the audience. Ishmael in the game does this, he address the player when he tells the player to press the stance button. So if Ishmael is the narrator and BB is the protagonist and they therefore can’t exist in the same place then this supports the idea that Ishmael is a hallucination.
Now, my final point. There are so many inconsistencies created by the end of the game. Like consider this, how to ocelot save the “real” Big Boss? He wipes his memory of Ishmael in one of the “truth” cassette tapes. It seems safe to assume that in-between getting Ishmael a ride and saving Big Boss in the van I don’t think he had time to wipe his memory and record a cassette tape. AND why does Quite want to kill Big Boss? She explains at the end that she wanted revenge for him burning her but he didn’t burn her. Ishmael did. This little detail made sense when Ishmael was just a hallucination. But if he was really the one who burned Quite then why did she want revenge on BB? If Ishmael was really physically there then she would have wanted revenge on Ishmael not BB. AAND in metal gear solid 4 at the end when Big Boss shows up he mentions that it was impossible to completely recreate someone’s personality until Liquid Ocelot.
Now let me explain something. Some of you reading this are probably thinking that there has to be a second Big Boss because in MGS4 he doesn’t have the horn, and because he dies in the first metal gear game. Well let me address the simpler topic first. Big Boss in MGS4 was a Frankenstein of Liquid and Solidus. He was “patched up” using their recycled parts. Now, in the first metal gear game when BB “dies” he gets burned by Solid Snake. But people have survived things similar to this in the series. Zadornov brought himself back to life on the thirst for revenge alone. Quite was burned to death AND fell out of a multi-story window and she was brought back to life using parasites. So whether BB gets juiced up on parasites or he lives on sheer will power alone, it’s entirely possible that he lived.
Finally, I’m going to talk about the last important piece of evidence. The Man Who Sold the World. The song that is originally by David Bowie, and featured in MGS 5. In the game it’s interpreted as there being two men. In the case of the game that would be Venom and Big Boss as individual people. When really the song is about one person. It’s about the man’s inner struggle with himself. The struggle between who he really is and the person he has sold himself as. “The Man Who Sold the World” is the image of himself that he has “sold” to the world. So these aren’t two individual Big Boss’. They are the two personalities of the one man. Venom Snake is as much the real physical Big Boss as the Big Boss in the hallucination is. And once you understand this it has HUGE ramifications for the rest of the series. It explains Big Boss. He is stuck between who he has become, venom, punished, and who the world sees him as, Big Boss. He is caught between the phantom pain, and the best part of himself. So when Big Boss rides away on the motorcycle it is symbolic of the best part of Snake leaving.
No one can escape the phantom pain. Not even Big Boss.
Franchement j'ai lu 1000 interprétations du jeu et plus j'en lis et plus j'apprends à apprécié le jeu. Tous le monde peut se faire l'interprétation qu'il veut mais croire mot pour mot le jeu est une erreur, tout est dans l'analyse, la recherche et la compréhension.
Pour ça connaître Bowie, 1984 et Moby Dick est nécessaire. La mission 46 en tant que réécriture de la réalité en référence au travail de Winston dans 1984 qui falsifie des documents n'est pas mal.
Le coup de l'apparition du Big Boss que l'on connait(la représentation exacte de PW et GZ) dans la mission 46 qui part en moto et qui symbolise la disparition du bon côté de John pour laisser entièrement place à Venom j'adore.
Cet instant avec Ocelot et Snake sort tellement de nul part, le filtre et le teint de la scène est tellement onirique.
C'est tellement génial comme métaphore. Franchement il y a tellement de fans qui partagent leur vision du jeu et qui font des recherches de malades c'est impressionnant.
Respect.
Après le soucis c'est que le jeu n'explique pas tout contrairement aux anciens épisodes mais ça c'est un choix de son auteur, on considère que dans un film il ne faut pas prendre le spectateur pour un idiot et tout lui expliqué et que mettre en place des parts d'ombres est essentiel.
Après c'est un avis relatif certains aiment tout savoir mais faire ça restreint l'imagination bref en tout cas c'est la première fois qu'un jeu fait autant réfléchir, on découvre de nouvelles idées et de nouvelles choses depuis sa sortie et c'est cool.
Après ça me fait rire ceux qui cherchent LA BONNE interprétation car il n'y en a pas, un élément pourra toujours se faire démonté par un autre dans TPP. Et l'utilisation de la phrase de Nietzsche prend tout son sens avec les fans qui proposent leur versions.
Mais bon croire bêtement à ce que raconte le jeu est une erreur faut être un fan acharné pour sentir la portée du machin.
Ce jeu est vraiment un MGS à part, c'est l'épisode le plus personnel de Kojima. A la limite il aurait pu crée un jeu qui s'appelle tout bonnement The Phantom Pain ça aurait été pareil.
C'est vraiment une expérience différente et c'est plaisant qu'il ait prit le risque de s'éloigné des codes de la série.
This is MGS "V" .
